Re: John I. :Briggs or Murray?

Posted by John Icenhower on Oct. 22, 1998 at 22:56:14

In Reply to: Re: John I. :Briggs or Murray?
posted by Tom Kane on Oct. 21, 1998 at 20:47:51

: : Cass,
: : Briggs had the D-nuts and the Murray had the caged nuts.
: : John
: John
: The Victoria - were they built by Murray, Briggs or both? I have an early, (Feb 1931 motor number) leatherback that I suspect, but do not know, is a Murray. There is a body tag on the firewall below the data plate numbered 22353 without any other identifying marks. I have not checked the nuts for "D" or Square Cage", will that tell me for certain?
: Thanks,
: Tom

Tom,
The body plate you refer to on the firewall should say Murray on it. One of the things we have determined of the 200+ Victorias that are in our Victoria Association data base is that none of the cars are "confirmed" Briggs manufacture. Some have Briggs data plates but they do not have D nuts. So we suspect that these have had the data plate changed out sometime during their life.
A common belief is that the leatherbacks were manufactured by Briggs and the steelbacks by Murray but the data doesn't bear this out since we have about 50% leatherbacks in the list and none are confirmed Briggs.
As Marco said we do have a questionnaire that we send to members to fill out with details on their car to build on the data that we have.
Send me an e-mail if you are interested in more info on the Victoria Association.
Thanks,
John

Follow Ups:
Re: John I. :Briggs or Murray? David Dewey Oct. 24, 1998 at 01:33:23 (3)
Re: John I. :Briggs or Murray? John Icenhower Oct. 25, 1998 at 21:12:52 (0)
Re: Briggs or Murray? Marco Oct. 24, 1998 at 10:44:07 (1)
Ah, it *couldn't* be 20 years ago!!!! David Dewey Oct. 25, 1998 at 00:04:40 (0)

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